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	<title>Comments on: Why, oh why, are so many inmates in Wisconsin jails black?</title>
	<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/</link>
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		<title>by: Fedup</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-1535</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>It really angers me to hear that blacks have a greater propensity for crime,Its called survival(in the hood). Have you ever taken a look at the statistics of uneducated NON BLACKS living (growing up and forming personalities) in poverty and crime riddled neighborhoods (not much different) ? Its pretty easy to point the judgemental finger from a cozy comfortable position in a nice "safe" environment having never been exposed to the other side but from afar or temporarily .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really angers me to hear that blacks have a greater propensity for crime,Its called survival(in the hood). Have you ever taken a look at the statistics of uneducated NON BLACKS living (growing up and forming personalities) in poverty and crime riddled neighborhoods (not much different) ? Its pretty easy to point the judgemental finger from a cozy comfortable position in a nice &#8220;safe&#8221; environment having never been exposed to the other side but from afar or temporarily .
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		<title>by: Expat Overlord</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-890</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 08:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The propensity for blacks to commit crimes is a world-wide phenomenon. What is so surprising here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The propensity for blacks to commit crimes is a world-wide phenomenon. What is so surprising here?
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		<title>by: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-836</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 05:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Black on black crime should be decriminalized. There are really two victim in these crimes. The perpetrator is a victim of the racist American society.  When a negro commits a crime it should be bought a new set of clothes and given a haircut, thereby converting it into well dressed ,clean cut member of the black community.  Billions of dollars could be saved this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black on black crime should be decriminalized. There are really two victim in these crimes. The perpetrator is a victim of the racist American society.  When a negro commits a crime it should be bought a new set of clothes and given a haircut, thereby converting it into well dressed ,clean cut member of the black community.  Billions of dollars could be saved this way.
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		<title>by: jennymad</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-570</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-570</guid>
					<description>"District Attorney Michael Nieskes said the complex issue before the commission is rooted in family instability, unemployment, low wages and educational backgrounds."  Does an average IQ of 85 have anything to do with this???

I work on the north side of Milwaukee, which is mostly Black.  In the 2 years that I have worked there, I have seen more crimes than I did in seven years of working in mostly White neighborhoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;District Attorney Michael Nieskes said the complex issue before the commission is rooted in family instability, unemployment, low wages and educational backgrounds.&#8221;  Does an average IQ of 85 have anything to do with this???</p>
<p>I work on the north side of Milwaukee, which is mostly Black.  In the 2 years that I have worked there, I have seen more crimes than I did in seven years of working in mostly White neighborhoods.
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		<title>by: webmaster</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-502</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Good points, Rob &#038; Blogmeister.  Of course if you don't enforce the laws, then they are worthless.  And most (though not all) laws on the books are good and reasonable.  People really shouldn't be allowed to drive without a license or have sex with underage girls and boys!

And if whites aren't often being put in jail, then the logical conclusion is that they must indeed be better behaved.  Which has been shown to be statistically true countless times.

The real purpose of this post isn't to make fun of the governor's silly commission or its ridiculous findings.

The "conclusions" the commission reached, however absurd, &lt;i&gt;are the only logical ones&lt;/i&gt; if you absolutely, positively insist on denying the truth about the linkages between race and crime.  You are forced to create a whole system of lies and absurdities to cover up the one truth you won't admit or even dare to speak of.

We're hoping that a lot of people will read not only this post, but also the original newspaper article, and will have their eyes opened to an important reality:  namely, that one of our society's cherished beliefs--the belief that (1) every misdeed and every failure by every nonwhite is somehow the fault of whites, and (2) whites can fix every problem caused by nonwhites by making ever greater concessions to nonwhites--is fundamentally absurd, and leads nowhere, especially when it is used as a basis for real-world public policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, Rob &#038; Blogmeister.  Of course if you don&#8217;t enforce the laws, then they are worthless.  And most (though not all) laws on the books are good and reasonable.  People really shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to drive without a license or have sex with underage girls and boys!</p>
<p>And if whites aren&#8217;t often being put in jail, then the logical conclusion is that they must indeed be better behaved.  Which has been shown to be statistically true countless times.</p>
<p>The real purpose of this post isn&#8217;t to make fun of the governor&#8217;s silly commission or its ridiculous findings.</p>
<p>The &#8220;conclusions&#8221; the commission reached, however absurd, <i>are the only logical ones</i> if you absolutely, positively insist on denying the truth about the linkages between race and crime.  You are forced to create a whole system of lies and absurdities to cover up the one truth you won&#8217;t admit or even dare to speak of.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re hoping that a lot of people will read not only this post, but also the original newspaper article, and will have their eyes opened to an important reality:  namely, that one of our society&#8217;s cherished beliefs&#8211;the belief that (1) every misdeed and every failure by every nonwhite is somehow the fault of whites, and (2) whites can fix every problem caused by nonwhites by making ever greater concessions to nonwhites&#8211;is fundamentally absurd, and leads nowhere, especially when it is used as a basis for real-world public policy.
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		<title>by: St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-501</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;i&gt;Studies show that Wisconsin ranks at or near the top of national lists measuring disproportionate numbers of African American, Hispanic, and other minority populations in the corrections system.&lt;/i&gt;

If the disparity in Wisconsin is high, I take this to mean that Wisconsin's whites are better behaved than the whites in other states.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Studies show that Wisconsin ranks at or near the top of national lists measuring disproportionate numbers of African American, Hispanic, and other minority populations in the corrections system.</i></p>
<p>If the disparity in Wisconsin is high, I take this to mean that Wisconsin&#8217;s whites are better behaved than the whites in other states.
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		<title>by: St. Louis CofCC Blogmeister</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-500</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 00:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-500</guid>
					<description>In Missouri, 17-year olds are considered adults for purposes of criminal law.

If nobody who drove on a revoked or suspended license were jailed, then the whole system of drivers' licenses and minimum competency tests for driving on public roads would be moot.  If nobody who had sex with legally underage people were jailed, then the legal protections given to minors to protect them from predatory men would be moot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Missouri, 17-year olds are considered adults for purposes of criminal law.</p>
<p>If nobody who drove on a revoked or suspended license were jailed, then the whole system of drivers&#8217; licenses and minimum competency tests for driving on public roads would be moot.  If nobody who had sex with legally underage people were jailed, then the legal protections given to minors to protect them from predatory men would be moot.
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		<title>by: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.chicagoamren.com/2007/07/12/why-oh-why-are-so-many-inmates-in-wisconsin-jails-black/#comment-496</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>ROTFL. I could hardly believe it so I googled the "Commission" &#038; it's for real all right. Check out their website that I'm sure wasn't cheap. &lt;a href="http://www.equaljustice.wi.gov/" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.equaljustice.wi.gov/&lt;/a&gt;.

More of the same:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The Commission on Reducing Racial Disparities in the Wisconsin Justice System was created by Governor Jim Doyle to study and propose solutions for racial disparities in Wisconsin’s criminal justice system. Studies show that Wisconsin ranks at or near the top of national lists measuring disproportionate numbers of African American, Hispanic, and other minority populations in the corrections system. In January, the National Council on Crime and Delinquency reported that young African Americans in Wisconsin are imprisoned at nearly 20 times the rate of young whites... 

Governor Doyle has directed the commission to develop strategies aimed at reducing racial disparities at each stage of the state’s justice system – from arrest of new suspects to parole of convicted felons – and submit a final report on its findings and recommendations by October 1, 2007.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I'm sure you can hardly wait to find out what everyone can do to make sure that fewer black criminals end up in jail (everyone, of course, except the criminals themselves, who have nothing to do with it)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROTFL. I could hardly believe it so I googled the &#8220;Commission&#8221; &#038; it&#8217;s for real all right. Check out their website that I&#8217;m sure wasn&#8217;t cheap. <a href="http://www.equaljustice.wi.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.equaljustice.wi.gov/</a>.</p>
<p>More of the same:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Commission on Reducing Racial Disparities in the Wisconsin Justice System was created by Governor Jim Doyle to study and propose solutions for racial disparities in Wisconsin’s criminal justice system. Studies show that Wisconsin ranks at or near the top of national lists measuring disproportionate numbers of African American, Hispanic, and other minority populations in the corrections system. In January, the National Council on Crime and Delinquency reported that young African Americans in Wisconsin are imprisoned at nearly 20 times the rate of young whites&#8230; </p>
<p>Governor Doyle has directed the commission to develop strategies aimed at reducing racial disparities at each stage of the state’s justice system – from arrest of new suspects to parole of convicted felons – and submit a final report on its findings and recommendations by October 1, 2007.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you can hardly wait to find out what everyone can do to make sure that fewer black criminals end up in jail (everyone, of course, except the criminals themselves, who have nothing to do with it)!
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